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lutz · May 09, 2009, 06:52 AM // 06:52

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Originally Posted by Gli

You know, I've worked on database applications occasionally. For existing systems, development and testing always happened on back-ups of operational environments. I don't see how one could conclude anything about the development time from that screenshot.

This man wins the thread.

Konig Des Todes · May 09, 2009, 06:58 AM // 06:58

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Originally Posted by lutz

This man wins the thread.

Yes, and he just wtfpwned your arse into the next digital millennium.

Yarly · May 09, 2009, 06:59 AM // 06:59

Who cares.. Its out, get over it maybe?

psycore · May 09, 2009, 07:42 AM // 07:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gli

You know, I've worked on database applications occasionally. For existing systems, development and testing always happened on back-ups of operational environments. I don't see how one could conclude anything about the development time from that screenshot.

but the OP has a super mysterious power that allows him to see the entirety of a development process just by laying his eyes on a screenshot.

Fril Estelin · May 09, 2009, 08:39 AM // 08:39

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Originally Posted by lutz

6 months to do simple webapps that should take one person 1-2 days.

You should start creating a degree programme on "common sense programming", I can already see the layout:

Year 1 (gentle introduction): The science of talking; General gibberish principles of programming; labs about typing posts on fansites (level 1: general trolling)

Year 2 (it gets tough now): The meaning behind words; what a programmer looks like and what's his job, roughly speaking; labs about typing posts on fansites (level 2: how to look like a dev)

Year 3 (the final chapter): How to make an impression; What technical terms to use to impress people; the advanced stuff for the dummies; labs about typing posts on fansites (level 3: <3 Linsey)

With people like you at Bellevue, GW1 would be perfect and we wouldn't need GW2!

EDIT: P.S.: makeShinyLoginButton FTW

Still Number One · May 09, 2009, 09:34 AM // 09:34

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Originally Posted by Gli

You know, I've worked on database applications occasionally. For existing systems, development and testing always happened on back-ups of operational environments. I don't see how one could conclude anything about the development time from that screenshot.

You can tell a minimum of how long ago they started working on the program simply by looking at which guilds are being randomly generated into that screens top 8.

The Sup players have not qualified for an mAT in [Sup] for quite some time now, and some of them have even left the game. Honor Police [GWPD], I believe was created after the banning of their previous guild because of an inappropriate name Come Honor [Face], which by the way I'm pretty sure Lutz/Protoss was a part of (if not GWPD he was in face), which would obviously make him a very good source for pin pointing how long ago this was.

Now what you want to make of that is your call and quite frankly I don't care if they started this 6 months ago, 12 months ago, or 2 days ago. It is here now and that is that.

If one wants to make conspiracy theorys on how anet takes forever to finish what they start, they are more than welcome to. If you don't agree with it, then ignore them and move on.

But yea, point of this whole post is to tell you how you can conclude something about the development time from that post. The fact that some of the guilds being used existed months ago and don't now.

BrettM · May 09, 2009, 12:02 PM // 12:02

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Originally Posted by Still Number One

You can tell a minimum of how long ago they started working on the program simply by looking at which guilds are being randomly generated into that screens top 8.

Prove it. Prove to me that someone has actually been "working on the program" since that screen shot was taken, and define "working on the program". Prove to me that the screenie wasn't taken six months ago for some other reason but came in handy a few days ago when someone started working on the web app.

The display iof flying leaps of illogic based on a screenshot in this thread are making me think I've wandered into a convention of people wearing tin foil hats. Look! Visual proof that shows ANet must have killed JFK!

Apollo Smile · May 09, 2009, 01:56 PM // 13:56

The Xunlai house upgrade has been a project for some time for Emily Diehl and the rest of the web people at ArenaNet. Just keep in mind they work on all other aspects of the website along with the wiki as well.

CronkTheImpaler · May 09, 2009, 05:07 PM // 17:07

So the existance of a screen grab is proof that they have been working on this non stop? i just dont understand how anyone can draw that conclusion.

Cronk

Wish Swiftdeath · May 10, 2009, 12:02 AM // 00:02

While i don't agree with the thread I can understand that protoss is upset with anet.

Guild Wars boring > gets upset>goes on forums>nothing happens>???

Edit: LOL http://www.gwstrat.com/forums/index.php

w00t! · May 10, 2009, 12:09 AM // 00:09

The inability of most people to understand basic systems development principles continues to astonish me.

Remember that: #of things to fix or add > amount of development time available

Therefore, things are often proposed months/years before they are prioritized for development. Just because a RDD is created doesn't mean that anyone is actually going to develop it, EVER. And if it is, it may be months later. Ergo, the requirements for this change were probably created months ago.

Back then · May 10, 2009, 03:29 AM // 03:29

the fanboing in this thread is making me queasy.

Anet is definitely slacking on GW1 lately... stop denying that. Hopefully the reason is because they're devoting most of their attention to GW2, and not that they're understaffed (which is a very good way to kill a project).

I'm not complaining but stop kissing so much butt. I don't even know what the xunlai tournament is nor do I care, but 6months for a web app is definitely a little ridiculous.

fenix · May 10, 2009, 03:34 AM // 03:34

Bad trolls trolling bad trolls trolling pvers who for some reason don't realise that ANet have been developing this for 6 months.

No.